I don't think getting them to stop talking is the goal. The goal is to help your daughter deal with people like J who are clearly troubled. The goal is to provide her with some tools to handle J in a way that leaves her feeling comfortable and strong.
Kim is the Founder of Frame of Mind Coaching™ & The Journal That Talks Back™, an executive coach & a supermom of 5. https://www.frameofmindcoaching.com/